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benghazi. they have begun airstrikes in anticipation of what we expect to be a brutal attack using air, land and sea forces. gaddafi has publicly promised that every home will be searched and that there will be no mercy and no pity shown. if we want any sense of what that might mean we only have to look at what happened in zawiyah where tanks and heavy weaponry were used to smash through a heavily populated town with heavy loss of life. and we don't have to guess what happens when he has subdued a population. human rights watch have catalogued the appalling human rights abuses that are being committed in tripoli. now the people of eastern libya are faced with the same treatment. mr. speaker, that is the demonstrable need. >> hear, hear. >> second, regional support. there must be a clear wish from the people of libya and the wider region for international action. through the transitional first to call for protection from air attack through a no fly zone. more recently, the arab league have made
benghazi. they have begun airstrikes in anticipation of what we expect to be a brutal attack using air, land and sea forces. gaddafi has publicly promised that every home will be searched and that there will be no mercy and no pity shown. if we want any sense of what that might mean we only have to look at what happened in zawiyah where tanks and heavy weaponry were used to smash through a heavily populated town with heavy loss of life. and we don't have to guess what happens when he has...
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benghazi for a second. you mentioned that you are satisfied that the military response would be different for something like that happened today. are there still changes that need to be meat or do you think the military has the flexibility and resources in place should this happen anywhere else in the region? had some go back, we security there. we had military leaders that have offered help but it was denied. say that we are ready to respond within an hour to get there in the middle of a firefight. there are soft targets. i think those should be weighed very carefully. if an ambassador asks for more security or more help, it should either be granted where they should be pulled out of there if they do not feel it is safe. we should not ask our people to put their lives on the line needlessly. if we cannot protect them, then we should pull them out. >> think you for returning to "newsmakers." we appreciate your time. >> thank you for having me. >> let's put this in the broader context of the forthcoming elec
benghazi for a second. you mentioned that you are satisfied that the military response would be different for something like that happened today. are there still changes that need to be meat or do you think the military has the flexibility and resources in place should this happen anywhere else in the region? had some go back, we security there. we had military leaders that have offered help but it was denied. say that we are ready to respond within an hour to get there in the middle of a...
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it is my understanding that we have had nine oversight hearings on the benghazi -- since benghazi, the horrific attacks on september 11, 2012. ike many of my colleagues have expressed of the family, i believe we need to continue to do everything within our power as congress to get to the and thes recommendations that will prevent this from happening again. in addition to our condolences, the things that we need to do most is our jobs, to come up with the recommendations to prevent this. one of the overall conclusions of the accountability review board was just that, "that congress must do its part to meet this challenge and provide necessary resources to the state department to address security risks and meet mission imperatives here co that was -- and meet mission imperatives." it was a direct statement out of the review board recommendation. i think each of you agree that congress must do its part, am i correct? yes or no, real quick. >> yes. , i juststher chairman would hope that after this nine oversight hearings, that we will begin to work on some specific recommendations that we
it is my understanding that we have had nine oversight hearings on the benghazi -- since benghazi, the horrific attacks on september 11, 2012. ike many of my colleagues have expressed of the family, i believe we need to continue to do everything within our power as congress to get to the and thes recommendations that will prevent this from happening again. in addition to our condolences, the things that we need to do most is our jobs, to come up with the recommendations to prevent this. one of...
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the situation event is in the news now and you're mentioning benghazi prompts this question. people are concerned withdrawal of all of the u.s. diplomatic personnel from venezuela could lead to and risk a benghazi like situation. >> i think we need to make sure there is a plan for protecting these people. i don't necessary didisagree with the decision to say we're going to stay because our presence is important. and what is the security situation? and keep in mind, thanks to the president, holding the country hostage, you know, for a rather nonspecific desire to build some kind of wall somewhere on the border, a lot of people aren't being paid and told to stay in a very, very dangerous part of the world. so that is there was an important function now before the committee was formed there are reports that did this. and there are decisions that should have opinion better thought out. >> if i would like to shift through a decision by the supreme court this week that will allow on the transgender troops, you've said anyone willing to serve should be allowed to do so and referring
the situation event is in the news now and you're mentioning benghazi prompts this question. people are concerned withdrawal of all of the u.s. diplomatic personnel from venezuela could lead to and risk a benghazi like situation. >> i think we need to make sure there is a plan for protecting these people. i don't necessary didisagree with the decision to say we're going to stay because our presence is important. and what is the security situation? and keep in mind, thanks to the...
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consulate in benghazi, libya. senators question the panel on sexual assaults in the military in sequestration budget cuts as well. this hourlong portion begins with questioning by committee chairman patty murray. >> thank you very much. we will turn to our begin with you. you asked for more time before cuts take place uncertainty when it comes to the defense budget, the senate budget we passed here provides both. it starts by eliminating sequestration and replacing it with a balanced mix of savings and revenue and spending including defense and ensures those savings and defense to not begin until fiscal year 2015 which would give the department the time you ask for to plan appropriately. the senate budget plan reduced defense spending by about $250 billion over 10 years, about half of the roughly $500 billion in cuts in sequestration. by replacing the sequestration and ending the budgeting by crisis we're doing, it provides certainty of the funding levels for dod for the next 10 years. as i mentioned, because we'v
consulate in benghazi, libya. senators question the panel on sexual assaults in the military in sequestration budget cuts as well. this hourlong portion begins with questioning by committee chairman patty murray. >> thank you very much. we will turn to our begin with you. you asked for more time before cuts take place uncertainty when it comes to the defense budget, the senate budget we passed here provides both. it starts by eliminating sequestration and replacing it with a balanced mix...
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speaker boehner took questions about the investigation into benghazi. general suzuki has educated his life to our country. resolvegnation does not the president of his responsibility to step in and make things right for our veterans. business as usual cannot continue. the senate should take up the .ouse health until the president outlined a vision and plan for addressing the broad dysfunction at the v.a., today's announcement changes nothing. one personnel change cannot be used as the excuse to paper over a systemic problem. we will hold the president accountable until he makes things right. >> the president referred to congress and the media as being part of the political distraction that he felt forced to hand the secretary. do you think politics was a factor? >> there was a rug a partisan concerned about what has happened of the v.a. and the that has been denied to our veterans. these people put their lives on than they deserve better. >> hillary clinton wrote this about benghazi. republicans politicizing the attack? >> that issue is about getting th
speaker boehner took questions about the investigation into benghazi. general suzuki has educated his life to our country. resolvegnation does not the president of his responsibility to step in and make things right for our veterans. business as usual cannot continue. the senate should take up the .ouse health until the president outlined a vision and plan for addressing the broad dysfunction at the v.a., today's announcement changes nothing. one personnel change cannot be used as the excuse to...
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stevens in to benghazi? secretary clinton: i was personally told by the officials who were in the state department who were immediately above chris who were making the plans for him to go in that it was going to be expeditiously -- expeditionary diplomacy. it was going to require him to make a lot of judgments on the ground about what he could where sh and including it would be safe for him to be and how long for him to say. i think the initial decision was up to 30 days and reassess, but it could have been 10 days, it could have been 60 days depending upon what he found and reported back to us. mrs. brooks: and possibly what was determined about the dange every of benghazi. who were those officials? secretary clinton: there were a number of officials -- mrs. brooks: that were advising you on the security specifically. secretary clinton: with respect to the security, this was a particular concern of the assistant secretary for the bureau in which chris worked. mrs. brooks: what was that person's name? secret
stevens in to benghazi? secretary clinton: i was personally told by the officials who were in the state department who were immediately above chris who were making the plans for him to go in that it was going to be expeditiously -- expeditionary diplomacy. it was going to require him to make a lot of judgments on the ground about what he could where sh and including it would be safe for him to be and how long for him to say. i think the initial decision was up to 30 days and reassess, but it...
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that was not my question for benghazi. that cable detailing the future of operations in benghazi. that cable was drafted in the department. i had at no time an opportunity to add or comment on that, however, the principle officer in benghazi had an opportunity to comment on than. it was that number five that d.s. committed to that we continued to ask them to meet throughout my time there. >> we reviewed that july cable and it states further anticipates supporting the operations in benghazi with at least one criminally assigned r.s.o. from tripoli, however, would request continued tv wide support to fill a minimum of three security positions in benghazi. so that would be a total of four, is that right? >> that's correct. >> i understand you left libya before the attacks, is that right? >> that's correct. >> we have now been told there were, in fact, five special agents in benghazi the night of the attack, contrary to the press reports. can you verify whether there were five special agents in benghazi on the night of the attack. and were there any additional armed guards on that nig
that was not my question for benghazi. that cable detailing the future of operations in benghazi. that cable was drafted in the department. i had at no time an opportunity to add or comment on that, however, the principle officer in benghazi had an opportunity to comment on than. it was that number five that d.s. committed to that we continued to ask them to meet throughout my time there. >> we reviewed that july cable and it states further anticipates supporting the operations in...
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report prior to the terrorist attack in benghazi? >> i was certainly aware of a number of reports from throughout our government. i don't know of the specific one you were referring to. there were d.o.d. reports, state department reports, talking about the decreasing or the increasing threat environment in eastern libya. that was what we were trying to address with the libyans. and remember the election in july in libya brought to victory what we would consider moderate people who had a very different view of it than al qaeda or other groups. the united states has to be as effective partnering with jihaddists whether they fly a black flag or other flag. >> i clearly understand that. however this flag was pointed out to be affiliated with al qaeda, terrorists who attack and kill united states citizens from around the world. did anyone in your department below you, were they aware of this report and photos prior to and don't you think they should have brought this to your attention? >> i am well aware there were people claiming to be a
report prior to the terrorist attack in benghazi? >> i was certainly aware of a number of reports from throughout our government. i don't know of the specific one you were referring to. there were d.o.d. reports, state department reports, talking about the decreasing or the increasing threat environment in eastern libya. that was what we were trying to address with the libyans. and remember the election in july in libya brought to victory what we would consider moderate people who had a...
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over the consulate in benghazi in an hour. incorrect. we had a force that could have been within a very short time. incorrect. we were able to track down every one of the stories that we heard that affected the military and most of those were incorrect information. we were able to get to the bottom of those things. what the state department was doing, what the president was doing, why they came out with misinformation that they put out on all the news shows by ambassador rice the next day, things they knew they were not correct, all those things need to be answered correctly. >> you're satisfied with the military response? me. >> donna? >> we were looking at a small portion of the overall operation in benghazi. what happened prior to that time? what about the request for more security that was denied? why was the ambassador even in benghazi? they have had a taxpayer. the british had withdrawn. i saw chairman gaudi recites a number of those questions. i think it is very important that we get to the bottom of it. when our committee had the
over the consulate in benghazi in an hour. incorrect. we had a force that could have been within a very short time. incorrect. we were able to track down every one of the stories that we heard that affected the military and most of those were incorrect information. we were able to get to the bottom of those things. what the state department was doing, what the president was doing, why they came out with misinformation that they put out on all the news shows by ambassador rice the next day,...
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benghazi story where we lost four americans. and the recent story about the five americans that were killed in afghanistan. that was a one day story. the benghazi story now a couple of years a old, what's the reason for a -- what are people are hung up on benghazi and why aren't they more interested in the fact that we killed our own in afghanistan? >> if people get the sense that there's a cover up or they're not getting the whole truth or there could be political motivations behind actions that something took that could have affected the outcome or those questions come up. i would argue in the case these americans killed by a friendly fire f we were to find out there was some cover up or some cause behind it other than what's been sold or advertised to us to date, there will be more interest. for benghazi, i'm just still surprised this much after the fact that we have no answers to the time line or generally what the commander in chief did while americans were under attack on foreign soil. the egyptian attack happened and beng
benghazi story where we lost four americans. and the recent story about the five americans that were killed in afghanistan. that was a one day story. the benghazi story now a couple of years a old, what's the reason for a -- what are people are hung up on benghazi and why aren't they more interested in the fact that we killed our own in afghanistan? >> if people get the sense that there's a cover up or they're not getting the whole truth or there could be political motivations behind...
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lots of stories about benghazi. we do not cover it with the intensity of fox news, and we do not cover with the intensity of msnbc on the other side. take a middle ground approach without taking sides. i understand the people on different sides to not always see it that way. hear from our conservative friends and our liberal friends that we do not cover this or that the way they wish we would. we do try very hard to take a neutral balance, unbiased approach. as no bias, but everyone is human, we are influenced by partisanship and ideology. we do try very hard. aviv, israel, watching us online, go ahead. caller: good morning. to comment,d because being here in israel it is so striking for me to your orut the residence what -- me to hear about the prisoner swap. this is an issue that israel has struggled with for veneration, treating terrorist for captive soldiers. most recently in 2011 we traded over 1000 terrorist for one soldier. from my perspective, i feel like obama got a very good deal in a 541 swap, where we ha
lots of stories about benghazi. we do not cover it with the intensity of fox news, and we do not cover with the intensity of msnbc on the other side. take a middle ground approach without taking sides. i understand the people on different sides to not always see it that way. hear from our conservative friends and our liberal friends that we do not cover this or that the way they wish we would. we do try very hard to take a neutral balance, unbiased approach. as no bias, but everyone is human,...
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was the case in benghazi. started writing about it and have been following the issue ever since for the heritage blog and other publications. i was tremendously heartened when we did get the announcement of the house select committee, because watching committee hearing at fter committee hearing, television, ask a follow-up question, it became very tiresome. the obama administration side, we hear there are no more questions to be answered. we have answered every question we have been asked. all the information is out. we have put it all out. we have handed over thousands and thousands of documents. yes, they have. it is like looking for needles in a haystack. sideimes from the other you hear that no questions have been answered. that is not true. the committee has answered quite a few questions. you need to follow up. neither person who can then ask, ok, secretary panetta, you went to the president and told him we were under attack. what did you recommend we would do? nobody asked him that? did you not come in
was the case in benghazi. started writing about it and have been following the issue ever since for the heritage blog and other publications. i was tremendously heartened when we did get the announcement of the house select committee, because watching committee hearing at fter committee hearing, television, ask a follow-up question, it became very tiresome. the obama administration side, we hear there are no more questions to be answered. we have answered every question we have been asked. all...
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he was killed in benghazi. america deserves answers before we sent another man and woman into harms way, a specially in another country's civil war when there is no clear indication that there is an imminent threat to the united states. i do not question that chemical weapons were used in syria. i have looked at the classified briefings. i do ask where are the other signatory countries as the u.s. beats the drums of war against this regime and syria? i have spoken to hundreds of constituents. this represents about 300 e- mails that my office has gotten and not a one member in my district are the e-mails of people who have contacted my office to say, go to syria and fight this regime. they say, no. it did not go into syria. do not get involved in their civil war. i spoke to eighth graders. about 150 of them get it that we should not be drug into someone else's civil war where there are no good guys. i can only envision an escalation of this conflict. the same administration that was so quick to involve the u.s.
he was killed in benghazi. america deserves answers before we sent another man and woman into harms way, a specially in another country's civil war when there is no clear indication that there is an imminent threat to the united states. i do not question that chemical weapons were used in syria. i have looked at the classified briefings. i do ask where are the other signatory countries as the u.s. beats the drums of war against this regime and syria? i have spoken to hundreds of constituents....
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levin, if i could go back to your question with respect to benghazi. a 1.i would like to offer to the immittee -- the one point want to offer for the committee, sent to the benghazi attacks were presented a number of briefings to members of this committee as well as other members. probably over a dozen briefings that presented a multimedia presentation, including surveillance video, overhead imagery, witness statements, describing every facet we have from an intelligence perspective about the attacks. so, we have had a number of activities to present everything we know from the intelligence community party perspective about the attacks in benghazi and we would offer that again if the committee were interested in seeing that. >> i am curious about the direct deposit comment about not having talked to the prosecutors, whether or not that might impact his opinion whether or not for some reason congress should not have access to those of survivors. i don't know of any reason, either, by the way. i have to tell you. notink this whole thing has been handled
levin, if i could go back to your question with respect to benghazi. a 1.i would like to offer to the immittee -- the one point want to offer for the committee, sent to the benghazi attacks were presented a number of briefings to members of this committee as well as other members. probably over a dozen briefings that presented a multimedia presentation, including surveillance video, overhead imagery, witness statements, describing every facet we have from an intelligence perspective about the...
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why do we have to be in benghazi? >> i would have to refer you to the arb, sir. >> let me add to it. maybe this will help you think about giving us an answer. in the 13 months prior, there were 230 security incidents in libya. ied, rpg, assassination attempt on the british ambassador. this was the wild west. repeated requests from our security personnel at the facility. we need more help. we need more good guys here. and you guys said nope. in fact, what they had you reduced. probably the most chaotic situation around any of the facilities. don't adhere to the waiver process. why were we there? >> sir, i think the arb points out mistakes were made. >> mr. stark -- >> i think it's very obvious we had a tragedy that occurred, and i'm not djing that a tragedy occurred. >> none of us are denying that. we want answers to it. >> i'm not the witness to tell you what happened. >> you're the the state department representative at the hearing on the the select committee to find out what happened. the most fundamental question i
why do we have to be in benghazi? >> i would have to refer you to the arb, sir. >> let me add to it. maybe this will help you think about giving us an answer. in the 13 months prior, there were 230 security incidents in libya. ied, rpg, assassination attempt on the british ambassador. this was the wild west. repeated requests from our security personnel at the facility. we need more help. we need more good guys here. and you guys said nope. in fact, what they had you reduced....
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your mention of benghazi, a lot of people are concerned the withdrawal of all essential u.s. diplomatic personnel from venezuela could leave too few people there and risk a benghazi situation. do you have that concern? adam smith: absolutely. we need a plan to protect these people. i do not necessarily disagree with the decision to say, we will stay, but what is the security situation? thanks to the president holding the country hostage for a nonspecific desire to build some kind of wall somewhere on the border, a lot of these people are not being paid while they are being told to stay in a dangerous part of the world. that is another argument to open the government. pay these people. we need to see what this security plan is. for all of the partisan nonsense involved in the benghazi committee, it was an important function. there were numerous reports that did this. mistakes were made. there were security decisions that should have been that are thought out. when we look at the situation now, we need to make sure our personnel are adequately protected. >> i would like to shif
your mention of benghazi, a lot of people are concerned the withdrawal of all essential u.s. diplomatic personnel from venezuela could leave too few people there and risk a benghazi situation. do you have that concern? adam smith: absolutely. we need a plan to protect these people. i do not necessarily disagree with the decision to say, we will stay, but what is the security situation? thanks to the president holding the country hostage for a nonspecific desire to build some kind of wall...
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in benghazi, he was far from dorothy and tyrone jr. and he laid down his life, protecting his friends. today, he is home. sean smith live to serve, first in the air force and then at the state department. he knew the perils of his calling from his time in baghdad. in benghazi, he surely thought of his children and he laid down his life for us all. today, sean is home. chris stevens was everything america could want in an ambassador, as the whole country has come to see. a first went to the region with a young man in the peace corps during the revolution. he arrived on that cargo ship. he believed in libya and his people and they loved him back. in benghazi, he laid down his life for his friends. , libyan and american and for us all. today, chris is home. 4 americans, four patriots. they loved this country. they chose to serve its and served it -- serve it and served it well. they had a mission and they believe in it. they knew the danger and they accepted it. they did not simply embrace the american ideal, they lift it -- lived it, the
in benghazi, he was far from dorothy and tyrone jr. and he laid down his life, protecting his friends. today, he is home. sean smith live to serve, first in the air force and then at the state department. he knew the perils of his calling from his time in baghdad. in benghazi, he surely thought of his children and he laid down his life for us all. today, sean is home. chris stevens was everything america could want in an ambassador, as the whole country has come to see. a first went to the...
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courageously slipping into rebel-held benghazi on board a cargo freighter. it was an act of bravery that typified chris stevens' service to our country, and his devotion to our nation's ideals and his commitment to build bridges between americans and arabs, americans and muslims. chris remained in benghazi throughout the war, standing with the people of libya during some of the darkest and most difficult hours in their struggle for freedom. he became, in fact, the bright symbol of america, heroic and inspiring figure to many libyans. as senator mccain and senator graham and i heard during our visits there and was thus the natural choice of president obama to become our ambassador to tripoli after the cad cads -- qadhafi regime fell. this is why his death at the hand of violent extremists in benghazi which was the seat of the revolution against qadhafi, is so tragic and infuriating. there is obviously much we still don't know about what happened at our consulate in benghazi yesterday, but what is clear is that these attackers have to be apprehended and must b
courageously slipping into rebel-held benghazi on board a cargo freighter. it was an act of bravery that typified chris stevens' service to our country, and his devotion to our nation's ideals and his commitment to build bridges between americans and arabs, americans and muslims. chris remained in benghazi throughout the war, standing with the people of libya during some of the darkest and most difficult hours in their struggle for freedom. he became, in fact, the bright symbol of america,...
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>> on the issue of benghazi, republicans still see that as a live issue. the chairman was talking about this. the military response seems to have been played out. republican party itself. where do you see this on the debate over how much they should be spending on the military? >> for a number of years, he has been frustrated since the tea party waiving 2010. they are out moving -- outmaneuvering this. what you see this year in election year, a lot of the parochial interest took precedent ang to see what chairman mckeon and senator carl levin do. they are both retiring. this is the last. they often talk about the fact that this is the one bill that congress has done for the d two straight years -- for 52 straight years. >> the one thing that does strike me is that congress is always parochial about defense spending. this year th we put against afghanistan we will not reach a stable democratic society and it is time to cut losses. how focal is that contingent? >> it is fairly vocal and fairly widespread. people are not enthusiastic about the mission in afgh
>> on the issue of benghazi, republicans still see that as a live issue. the chairman was talking about this. the military response seems to have been played out. republican party itself. where do you see this on the debate over how much they should be spending on the military? >> for a number of years, he has been frustrated since the tea party waiving 2010. they are out moving -- outmaneuvering this. what you see this year in election year, a lot of the parochial interest took...
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and western interests in benghazi. why were no units postured, alert, and ready to respond to what should have been a foreseeable contingency, one in which two of the four people who lost their lives were killed in the seventh hour of the attack? this raises questions that the pentagon and the defense department must consider. what greater world the we need the military to play a defense of personnel overseas, especially in the broader middle east that has been never more unsettled? what is the right military posture for forces in the region? what do we need them to do? conversations about the military and defense right now, are mostly about budgets and numbers. it is important to talk more about objectives, strategy, and policies since the attack in benghazi could represent a kind of new normal in our dangerous world. the defense department needs to answer these questions. i might add in the authorization bill we added authorization for 1000 additional marines to be used to protect our installations, diplomatic instal
and western interests in benghazi. why were no units postured, alert, and ready to respond to what should have been a foreseeable contingency, one in which two of the four people who lost their lives were killed in the seventh hour of the attack? this raises questions that the pentagon and the defense department must consider. what greater world the we need the military to play a defense of personnel overseas, especially in the broader middle east that has been never more unsettled? what is the...
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i like to get your opinion on what happened in the attack on our embassies in benghazi. what were some of the lessons learned from that? >> both d.o.d. and the department of state have taken on the caps that were there in intelligence -- gaps that were there that did not enable us to respond correctly. the department of state has to be well-informed by the department of defense. the response forces data are available to the commanders need to be continually -- the despite its forces that are available to the commanders need -- the res ponse forces that are available to commanders need to be continually looked at. >> thinking about the air assets. will we have anything if we need to go to that area to respond? how we handle it? >> there are requirements on the department of defense. they need to make some risk decisions across the combat and command areas. the best we can do is make sure everybody understands the rest so we can make good decisions on where to keep our people. >> i look forward to working with you on that. it is a challenge we face in that area, particular
i like to get your opinion on what happened in the attack on our embassies in benghazi. what were some of the lessons learned from that? >> both d.o.d. and the department of state have taken on the caps that were there in intelligence -- gaps that were there that did not enable us to respond correctly. the department of state has to be well-informed by the department of defense. the response forces data are available to the commanders need to be continually -- the despite its forces that...
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facility in benghazi. and frankly without an adequate warning, there was not enough time given the speed of the attack for armed military assets to respond. that's not just my view or general dempsey's view. it was the view of the accountability review board that studied what happened on that day. in the months since the tragedy at the temporary mission facility in the nearby annex in benghazi, we've learned that there were actually two short duration attacks that occurred some six hours apart. and again, there was no specific intelligence that indicated that a second attack would occur at the annex which was located some two miles away. the bottom line is this -- that we were not dealing with a prolonged or continuous assault, which could have been brought to an end by u.s. military response. very simply, although we had forces deployed to the region. time, distance, the lack of inadequate warning -- of an adequate warning prevented a more immediate response. despite the uncertainty at the time, the depar
facility in benghazi. and frankly without an adequate warning, there was not enough time given the speed of the attack for armed military assets to respond. that's not just my view or general dempsey's view. it was the view of the accountability review board that studied what happened on that day. in the months since the tragedy at the temporary mission facility in the nearby annex in benghazi, we've learned that there were actually two short duration attacks that occurred some six hours apart....
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if you were investigating benghazi or what happened in benghazi and there was an offer of an e-mail three months to the day, three months to the day from when our four fellow americans were killed, the author of the e-mail says "anti-american demonstration, looking for americans to attack, game changer, soft target, no continuity, the cost to continue to do business there may become challenging." would you want to talk to the author of that e-mail if you were investigating benghazi? >> the accountability review board had full run of the state department to talk to anyone they chose to talk to. it's my understanding they conducted more than 100 interviews, and they were well aware, as their report reflects, of the dangerous situation in libya. >> i don't want to interrupt you. that actually was not my question. my question is, would you want to talk to that person? not whether or not the arb did, because the arb actually did talk to that person. my question is, wouldn't you want to talk to that person if you were investigating benghazi? >> well -- >> i promise it is not a trick question. t
if you were investigating benghazi or what happened in benghazi and there was an offer of an e-mail three months to the day, three months to the day from when our four fellow americans were killed, the author of the e-mail says "anti-american demonstration, looking for americans to attack, game changer, soft target, no continuity, the cost to continue to do business there may become challenging." would you want to talk to the author of that e-mail if you were investigating benghazi?...
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consulate in benghazi that killed four american citizens. sean smith and ambassador chris stevens are among the identified. i didn't know sean smith. i know he is a great american who served his country. but i have gotten to know chris stevens quite well. in his death, the libyan people have lost a great champion and believer in the peaceful aspirations of their democratic revolution. the american people have lost a selfless and dedicated servant of our interests and our values. and i have lost a friend. my thoughts and prayers today are with chrises family and his loved ones and those of his fallen colleagues. our first order of business now is to make sure that our citizens living in libya and egypt and elsewhere across the region in the world are safe. americans look to the government in libya and egypt and elsewhere to meet their responsibilities in this regard. they also look to the libyan government to ensure that those responsible for yesterday's attack in benghazi are swiftly brought to justice. in all of these critical tasks, we are
consulate in benghazi that killed four american citizens. sean smith and ambassador chris stevens are among the identified. i didn't know sean smith. i know he is a great american who served his country. but i have gotten to know chris stevens quite well. in his death, the libyan people have lost a great champion and believer in the peaceful aspirations of their democratic revolution. the american people have lost a selfless and dedicated servant of our interests and our values. and i have lost...
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nordstrom distrust of the duties of the agents in benghazi -- discussed the duties of the ages in benghazi, we were using an agent to -- agents in benghazi, we were using an agent to monitor classified communications. these are not normally duties assigned to a ds agent. i asked him to review that. when another rso went to benghazi, that rso was asked to review the numbers. a driver was hired, trained and the driver took the place of what the ds agent was doing. they came up through technical security means around the need to half the 24-7 coverage. >> one last question. when the ambassador to travel to benghazi before the attack, could bthe security team in tripoli send additional security with him if it was necessary? >> absolutely. >> or any of those five ds agents with the ambassador in tripoli come down from benghazi? >> yes. >> that is not the same as by being in benghazi ordinarily. the still would have been two more coming down with the ambassador for a total of 7. >> we agreed that three was a sufficient number to have on the ground. one question. -- >> the cable we talked about a
nordstrom distrust of the duties of the agents in benghazi -- discussed the duties of the ages in benghazi, we were using an agent to -- agents in benghazi, we were using an agent to monitor classified communications. these are not normally duties assigned to a ds agent. i asked him to review that. when another rso went to benghazi, that rso was asked to review the numbers. a driver was hired, trained and the driver took the place of what the ds agent was doing. they came up through technical...
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let's get something a little fresher, benghazi. everyone remembers benghazi. a coordinated attack against two of our government facilities in benghazi. four americans died. their deaths were likely preventable but hillary clinton's state department and the department of defense never mounted a rescue effort to save them. not one mission was made to save the attackers. whatill do not know president obama did that night except get ready to go to a political rally in las vegas the next day. we lost for americans. they were not the only ones left behind. in the aftermath of the terrorist attack at benghazi there is a concerted effort to reflect responsibility for these debts. from future presidential hopeful -- an outspoken member of the citizens commission of benghazi knew there were lies being advanced by hillary clinton's team. simmons appeared dozens of times on the foxnews channel on radio and in print to defend american heroes. he helped provide evidence to the citizens commission on benghazi proving the direct link to hillary clinton that led to their death
let's get something a little fresher, benghazi. everyone remembers benghazi. a coordinated attack against two of our government facilities in benghazi. four americans died. their deaths were likely preventable but hillary clinton's state department and the department of defense never mounted a rescue effort to save them. not one mission was made to save the attackers. whatill do not know president obama did that night except get ready to go to a political rally in las vegas the next day. we...
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kind of an benghazi, asha, the tribal leaders. so you can see libya was divided. when italians came during, at the beginning of the 20th , around 1912, they fought against the ottomans. the end the war, but in they found out there was another enemy, the libyans. and they started a terrible counterinsurgency in the country, and this lasted until 1931, when the hero of the insurgents was caught and hanged in a concentration camp. those years, the years of the italians, libya was already divided, this time in two parts. -- until 1928. then it was unified for military reasons, and i can talk about that after if anyone is interested. 1934 it became a real part of italy. unified.y, it was but divided, there was better therolling five provinces, military territories, just to make you understand. and it was always divided. then, during the allied that kind ofgain, occupation that was more of a efectorate. king came tohe power. during the allied protectorate, .reat britain took ciro mica came after his exile caused by italians, he went to egypt and came back in 1944. he be
kind of an benghazi, asha, the tribal leaders. so you can see libya was divided. when italians came during, at the beginning of the 20th , around 1912, they fought against the ottomans. the end the war, but in they found out there was another enemy, the libyans. and they started a terrible counterinsurgency in the country, and this lasted until 1931, when the hero of the insurgents was caught and hanged in a concentration camp. those years, the years of the italians, libya was already divided,...
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so could you have been at benghazi in 3 1/2 hours? well, we had ordinants on the planes and that particular evening and it would have take an while to recon figure those. well, if you can get clear from ramstein air force base to benghazi in three, 3 1/2 hours top, we got planes a whole lot closer to where these navy vessels were. they should have been able to be there in minutes. but i'm sure some commander, some admiral that's afraid of the commander in chief would never admit that, not these days, but the fact is this once oud united states military protected its own for the last 70 years. and now it calls upon the largest supporter of terrorism to come get our sailors and to have them kneel on their knees, hands behind their heads, as if they're p.o.w.'s, embarrass them to the maximum, and for that secretary of state kerry thanked iran. well, madam speaker, i see my friend from nebraska's here and i would like to yield to my friend such time as he may consume. >> mr. speaker, let me thank the gentleman from texas for yielding. i w
so could you have been at benghazi in 3 1/2 hours? well, we had ordinants on the planes and that particular evening and it would have take an while to recon figure those. well, if you can get clear from ramstein air force base to benghazi in three, 3 1/2 hours top, we got planes a whole lot closer to where these navy vessels were. they should have been able to be there in minutes. but i'm sure some commander, some admiral that's afraid of the commander in chief would never admit that, not these...
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s base in benghazi. so i believe there is actually a very large number of americans who are alive today thanks to the response of both the c.i.a. officers at benghazi base and the c.i.a. and military officers from tripoli. >> all the evidence that i've heard in the hearings that i attended -- and not one time did anyone make a comment that they felt they were abandoned by the united states government or by the united states military. >> i know of no stand down order from anybody in the military. i am aware of several requests by c.i.a. for military support that night and those requests were honored and delivered. >> i want to get one last question that we on this committee need to respond to the public. and yet we have the issue of we can't violate any -- the law about giving out classified information. but we need some -- especially members who haven't been on the committee as long as other members. we need guidance sometimes on the classified issue. what have we learned as far as asking for simple dire
s base in benghazi. so i believe there is actually a very large number of americans who are alive today thanks to the response of both the c.i.a. officers at benghazi base and the c.i.a. and military officers from tripoli. >> all the evidence that i've heard in the hearings that i attended -- and not one time did anyone make a comment that they felt they were abandoned by the united states government or by the united states military. >> i know of no stand down order from anybody in...
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in benghazi. what we also know is clearly they were not in a position where they were adequately protected. the day after it happened, i acknowledged that this was an act of terrorism. what i pledged to the american people was that we would find out what happened and make sure that it did not happen again and make sure that we held accountable those who perpetrated this terrible crime. that is exactly what we have been trying to do. over the last several months, there was a review board headed by two distinguished americans. they investigated every element of this. what they discovered was some pretty harsh judgments in terms of how we had worked to protect consulates and embassies around the world. they give us a whole series of recommendations. those recommendations are being implemented as we speak. the whole issue of talking points, frankly, throughout his process has been a sideshow. -- this process has been a sideshow. what we have been very clear throughout is that immediately after this ha
in benghazi. what we also know is clearly they were not in a position where they were adequately protected. the day after it happened, i acknowledged that this was an act of terrorism. what i pledged to the american people was that we would find out what happened and make sure that it did not happen again and make sure that we held accountable those who perpetrated this terrible crime. that is exactly what we have been trying to do. over the last several months, there was a review board headed...
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facility in benghazi. and frankly without an adequate warning, there was not enough time given the speed of the attack for armed military assets to respond. that's not just my view or general dempsey's view. it was the view of the accountability review board that studied what happened on that day. in the months since the tragedy at the temporary mission facility in the nearby annex in benghazi, we've learned that there were actually two short duration attacks that occurred some six hours apart. and again, there was no specific intelligence that indicated that a second attack would occur at the annex which was located some two miles away. the bottom line is this -- that we were not dealing with a prolonged or continuous assault, which could have been brought to an end by u.s. military response. very simply, although we had forces deployed to the region. time, distance, the lack of inadequate warning -- of an adequate warning prevented a more immediate response. despite the uncertainty at the time, the depar
facility in benghazi. and frankly without an adequate warning, there was not enough time given the speed of the attack for armed military assets to respond. that's not just my view or general dempsey's view. it was the view of the accountability review board that studied what happened on that day. in the months since the tragedy at the temporary mission facility in the nearby annex in benghazi, we've learned that there were actually two short duration attacks that occurred some six hours apart....
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consulate in benghazi. secretary clinton took responsibility for the deaths of four americans including ambassador chris stevens. this is one of her last hearings before she steps down. john kerry is the nomination to replace her. from the foreign relations committee, this is to 0.5 hours. -- 2.5 hours. >> let me begin by welcoming the new members to the committee. since the false and that has not passed the committee resolution of official late seating members, i want to ask consent to allow our prospective members to participate in today's hearing. let me welcome me and thank you for honoring your commitment to come before the committee after the review board's findings. you said you would after the findings were completed. you have a bit of an intervening challenge. we are thrilled to see you here today doing well. and to take time out of your schedule to discuss the tragic events from the causing -- from benghazi to learn. in your tenure as secretary, you've always been up front and energetic and defend
consulate in benghazi. secretary clinton took responsibility for the deaths of four americans including ambassador chris stevens. this is one of her last hearings before she steps down. john kerry is the nomination to replace her. from the foreign relations committee, this is to 0.5 hours. -- 2.5 hours. >> let me begin by welcoming the new members to the committee. since the false and that has not passed the committee resolution of official late seating members, i want to ask consent to...
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benghazi. contrary to some reports, he was at no point ordered to stand remain inrather to tripoli to defend american embassy there in anticipation of possible additional attacks and to assist the survivors as they returned from benghazi. the colonel confirmed this account of events. when i asked will we ever listen to the facts? this came out of the subcommittee of the armed services committee chaired by a republican colleague. these are the facts. let me move on and asked admiral mullen the question. another allegation has been made by many republicans, including that the military should have sent the fighter planes to fly over benghazi. you still have to say, why weren't there aircraft it capability heading towards them? the next time this happens, it can we count on this secretary to care about people in harms way? there are some things wrong with this statement. i do not even know where to start. do you agree the president and caretary of state "do not about people in harms way"? >> i do n
benghazi. contrary to some reports, he was at no point ordered to stand remain inrather to tripoli to defend american embassy there in anticipation of possible additional attacks and to assist the survivors as they returned from benghazi. the colonel confirmed this account of events. when i asked will we ever listen to the facts? this came out of the subcommittee of the armed services committee chaired by a republican colleague. these are the facts. let me move on and asked admiral mullen the...
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no one else was hurt, other than benghazi. so within the document itself, they are talking about reinforcing the view that we will go after those who harmed americans. the only people who were harmed, the four people killed were in benghazi. so that's just a bald-faced lie, that's insulting our intelligence, and it really is disrespectful to those who died in the line of duty to suggest this email they would not give us without a court order had nothing to do with the death of four americans. it had everything to do -- mr. mccain: i might add that all of the emails were supposed to be given to the congress in return for the confirmation of mr. brennan as head of the c.i.a. they didn't do that. mr. graham: no. the bottom line here is the goals set out in this email are to try to convince the american people seven weeks before an election we had done everything possible to protect our people and facilities, to underscore that the protests were rooted in an internet video and not a broader failure of policy. i'm here to tell you,
no one else was hurt, other than benghazi. so within the document itself, they are talking about reinforcing the view that we will go after those who harmed americans. the only people who were harmed, the four people killed were in benghazi. so that's just a bald-faced lie, that's insulting our intelligence, and it really is disrespectful to those who died in the line of duty to suggest this email they would not give us without a court order had nothing to do with the death of four americans....
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stevens into benghazi? >> i was personally told by the officials who were in the state department who were immediately above chris, who were making the plans for him to go in, that it was going to be expeditionary diplomacy. it was going to require him to make a lot of judgments on the ground. about what he could accomplish and including where it would be safe for him to be and how long for him to stay. and i think the initial decision was, you know, up to 30 days and reassess. but it could have been 10 days. it could have been 60 days depending upon what he found and what he reported back to us. >> is and possibly what was determined about the danger of benghazi. who were those officials? >> there were a number of officials -- >> advising you on the security specifically? >> with respect to the security, this was a particular concern of the assistant secretary for the bureau in which chris worked. >> i'm sorry. what was that person's name? >> assistant secretary jeff feldman. and the security for diplomati
stevens into benghazi? >> i was personally told by the officials who were in the state department who were immediately above chris, who were making the plans for him to go in, that it was going to be expeditionary diplomacy. it was going to require him to make a lot of judgments on the ground. about what he could accomplish and including where it would be safe for him to be and how long for him to stay. and i think the initial decision was, you know, up to 30 days and reassess. but it...
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we had none at benghazi. it was unfortunate we evacuate all the americans and unclassified material was left behind. we had no classified material. there is going to be an effort, because of this work i have directed, to really sort this out so you know and everybody knows exactly what the protocols and rules are and we act accordingly. >> thank you. >> thank you for your thorough, thoughtful, and forthright answers. it is what we have come to become accustomed to. we will welcome you one more time as you come tomorrow to be part of introducing senator kerry to the committee. we will welcome you there, as well. there are several takeaways here that are incredibly important. one is that we have to look at the totality of the threat environment versus just looking for a specific, credible threat when we are thinking about the protection of foreign service personnel. i see we are moving in that direction. the other one is the changes in the department have clear lines of authority and responsibility for security
we had none at benghazi. it was unfortunate we evacuate all the americans and unclassified material was left behind. we had no classified material. there is going to be an effort, because of this work i have directed, to really sort this out so you know and everybody knows exactly what the protocols and rules are and we act accordingly. >> thank you. >> thank you for your thorough, thoughtful, and forthright answers. it is what we have come to become accustomed to. we will welcome...
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ghazi, i will the walk out -- benghazi, i will walk out. [cheering] >> those the same plane that brought down from aaa. this was one of the planes glenn did not make it back on. secured, it became secured, they had just met that day. i don't think it is a coincidence. ushaven't overwater with that night. we got everybody loaded up, headed to tripoli and then we had to turn our task. we stayed behind because they cannot hold everybody. again, the gaddafi moralist -- loyal as moshe stepped up -- militia stepped up. there are termed the ambassador's body. ambassador with the 's body. he was wearing the same close -- clothes at the morning we saw him. clothesearing the same .the only difference on his feetck soot and minerals and ears, -- fingernails and ears, no sign of torture or mutilation. obviously that he died of smoke and elation. -- inhalation. at that point, we still do not know how we were going to get out of there. of minutes go by, i seek 1:30 running down the runway, comes a little closer and is a u-turn, pulls off to a hangar area
ghazi, i will the walk out -- benghazi, i will walk out. [cheering] >> those the same plane that brought down from aaa. this was one of the planes glenn did not make it back on. secured, it became secured, they had just met that day. i don't think it is a coincidence. ushaven't overwater with that night. we got everybody loaded up, headed to tripoli and then we had to turn our task. we stayed behind because they cannot hold everybody. again, the gaddafi moralist -- loyal as moshe stepped...
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will talk about the benghazi attack. he is the author of "exit the kernel hole in the secret history of the libyan revolution -- "exit the host: a busy day with lawmakers dealing with many high profile issues but the house of representatives will see a moment of silence for oklahoma, where a tornado killed at least four. aesident obama has signed disaster declaration and he will address the nation at 10:00 a.m.. the national weather service classified yesterday's tornado s an ef4, the second most powerful. we will get your thoughts to the response. we want to hear from oklahoma residents, 202-585-3883. send us your comments to twitter got, or post them on facebook.com. me begin with oklahoma, courtesy of the museum here in washington. this is their headline -- heras "tulsa world." "tulsa world," - - also this morning, another headline -- hear from the washington post, this is what they are reporting. the quote they have -- a republican from oklahoma says -- the president signing a disaster declaration last night for five
will talk about the benghazi attack. he is the author of "exit the kernel hole in the secret history of the libyan revolution -- "exit the host: a busy day with lawmakers dealing with many high profile issues but the house of representatives will see a moment of silence for oklahoma, where a tornado killed at least four. aesident obama has signed disaster declaration and he will address the nation at 10:00 a.m.. the national weather service classified yesterday's tornado s an ef4, the...
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of benghazi? why did they go? i have not heard anything in any of the talking points or the hearings on this. it's very curious why go into a dangerous area without an escort? host: what would you learn from that and why is that significant to you? caller: if you go into unsecured area without enough support, you are at risk for life and limb or something to happen. if you just look at history, i should say, armed forces don't go into dubious areas where they cannot succeed. host: okay, william kristol. guest: ambassador stevens went there to have meetings. he felt it was secure enough to do his job. lot of americans abroad do things that are risky. he did seem so request security different times. whether he could have gone with light security, that's hard to know, obviously. i guess that can be second guest. two of the americans were the team that came to help once the attack began in benghazi, they came from tripoli. there i think we were -- the question of what happened in those 8, 10 or 12 hou
of benghazi? why did they go? i have not heard anything in any of the talking points or the hearings on this. it's very curious why go into a dangerous area without an escort? host: what would you learn from that and why is that significant to you? caller: if you go into unsecured area without enough support, you are at risk for life and limb or something to happen. if you just look at history, i should say, armed forces don't go into dubious areas where they cannot succeed. host: okay, william...
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diplomatic mission in libya and in benghazi, ultimately in benghazi. mr. cummings, we will have, from time to time, our disagreements. i know that for all the members of this committee, we understand that these agreements must be kept on this side of the dais. these brave witnesses deserve the right to the call to testify. these brave whistleblowers are what make this committee's work work. we are the committee that led for new whistle blower protections signed by this president and the public has a right to hear their accounts we, more than any other committee, must respect whistle- blowers and work on a bipartisan basis always to protect them. with that, i recognize the ranking member for his opening statements. >> mr. chairman, i want to thank you for calling this hearing. i want to be clear. i have said it over and over again. there is no member of this congress, be they republican or democrat, who fails to uphold the right of whistle-blowers to come forward. and i sink it is sad when that accusation is made -- and i think it is sad when that accusatio
diplomatic mission in libya and in benghazi, ultimately in benghazi. mr. cummings, we will have, from time to time, our disagreements. i know that for all the members of this committee, we understand that these agreements must be kept on this side of the dais. these brave witnesses deserve the right to the call to testify. these brave whistleblowers are what make this committee's work work. we are the committee that led for new whistle blower protections signed by this president and the public...
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two officers were killed today in benghazi by an al qaeda-like group. tell the american people one thing. you tell your family an entirely different storyifment also on the night of the attack, you had a call with the president of libyafment here is hat you said to him. interesting. one of the guys arrested and charged actually belonged to that group. and finally, most significantly, the next day within 4 hours you had a conversation with the egyptian prime minister. you told him this. we know the attack in libya had nothing to do with the film. it was a planned attack, not a protest. let me read that one more time. we know that the attack in libya had nothing to do with the film. was a planned attack, not a protest. american people got. again, the american people want to know why. why didn't you tell the american people protest. the state department experts knew the truth. you knew the truth. that's not what the exactly wha you told the egyptian prime minister? >> i think if you look at the statement that i made, i clearly said that it was an attack. a
two officers were killed today in benghazi by an al qaeda-like group. tell the american people one thing. you tell your family an entirely different storyifment also on the night of the attack, you had a call with the president of libyafment here is hat you said to him. interesting. one of the guys arrested and charged actually belonged to that group. and finally, most significantly, the next day within 4 hours you had a conversation with the egyptian prime minister. you told him this. we know...
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we do not get out to benghazi. i hope eventually will be able to. we can't travel on a dime. >> if i may, so the americans who are very interested in tourism in libya -- >> wouldn't do it right now. >> infrastructure. >> it's a precarious situation. how much does a big mac cost? i have the 911 standard which is if you go as a tourist to any country in the world and something happens to you, if you call 911, what do you get for it? you know, if you're in iceland, germany, uk, u.s., a lot of places, you're going to get quite a bit. if you're in libya, you're going to keep dialing and, you know, if you know people, they will come to your rescue. libyans help each other out. one of the things i'm always very moved by and touched by is how often libyans stop and help other libyans. and i tell people one of the stories about libya that's fantastic actually is if any other society in the world that is that heavily saturated with weapons, you would have a lethality rate that's off the charts. it doesn't happen. why? why doesn't it happen? now it's happening
we do not get out to benghazi. i hope eventually will be able to. we can't travel on a dime. >> if i may, so the americans who are very interested in tourism in libya -- >> wouldn't do it right now. >> infrastructure. >> it's a precarious situation. how much does a big mac cost? i have the 911 standard which is if you go as a tourist to any country in the world and something happens to you, if you call 911, what do you get for it? you know, if you're in iceland, germany,...
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they did not direct the attacks in benghazi or boston. they have not carried out a successful attack on our homeland since 9/11. instead, what we've seen is the emergence of various al qaeda affiliates. from yemen to iraq, from somalia to north africa, the threat today is more diffuse, with al qaeda's affiliate in the arabian peninsula -- aqap -the most active in plotting against our homeland. while none of aqap's efforts approach the scale of 9/11 they have continued to plot acts of terror, like the attempt to blow up an airplane on christmas day in 2009. unrest in the arab world has also allowed extremists to gain a foothold in countries like libya and syria. here, too, there are differences from 9/11. in some cases, we confront state-sponsored networks like hezbollah that engage in acts of terror to achieve political goals. others are simply collections of local militias or extremists interested in seizing territory. while we are vigilant for signs that these groups may pose a transnational threat, most are focused on operating in the
they did not direct the attacks in benghazi or boston. they have not carried out a successful attack on our homeland since 9/11. instead, what we've seen is the emergence of various al qaeda affiliates. from yemen to iraq, from somalia to north africa, the threat today is more diffuse, with al qaeda's affiliate in the arabian peninsula -- aqap -the most active in plotting against our homeland. while none of aqap's efforts approach the scale of 9/11 they have continued to plot acts of terror,...